John and Chino discuss the rise of Hobart Freeman's divine healing doctrine, tracing how promises of perfect faith and freedom from medicine evolved into fear, control, and devastating outcomes. Through firsthand testimony, recorded sermons, and documented contradictions between teaching and practice, they examine how extreme theology reshaped lives, silenced questions, and reframed suffering as spiritual failure.
This conversation explores the psychological and spiritual mechanisms that sustain high-control religious systems, including cognitive dissonance, leader immunity, and myth-making after a leader's death. By focusing on verifiable facts rather than speculation, the discussion challenges listeners to consider how doctrine should be tested by both Scripture and lived reality—and what happens when it is not.
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00:00 Introduction
03:47 Freeman’s doctrine and the problem of contradiction
07:30 Post-death denial and rewriting history
12:03 Control through doctrine and information
19:11 The glasses teaching and enforced faith behavior
27:01 Claims of divine health vs lived reality
32:17 The final year and escalation of threats
38:00 Medication, authority, and moral coercion
43:22 Why followers protect leaders at all costs
49:39 Freeman’s feet, orthopedic shoes, and inconsistency
54:50 Medical facts surrounding Freeman’s death
59:27 Patterns repeated across healing movements
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