Yahya ibn Ya'mur ne riwayat ki hai ke pehla shakhs jo Basra mein qadr (Ilahi Takdeer) ke baare mein baat kiya tha wo Ma'bad al-Juhani thay. Main aur Humaid ibn Abdur-Rahman Himyari umrah ya hajj ke liye nikle aur socha:
Agar humein kisi Sahabi se mil jaye Rasool Allah (صلى الله عليه وسلم) ke, to hum unse qadr (Ilahi Takdeer) ke baare mein sawal karenge. Ittefaqi toor par humein Abdullah ibn Umar ibn al-Khattab se mila, jab woh masjid mein dakhil ho rahe thay. Mere saathi aur maine unhe charo taraf se gher liya. Mujhe ummeed thi ke mere saathi mujhe ijazat denge baat karne ki. Is liye maine kaha: Abu Abdur Rahman! Hamare ilaqe mein log aaye hain jo Quran padhte hain aur ilm talash karte hain. Aur unke haalat ke baare mein baat karne ke baad, yeh bhi kaha: Un logon ka daawa hai ke Ilahi Takdeer nahi hoti aur waqiyat pehle se taay nahi hote.
Abdullah ibn Umar ne kaha: Jab tum un logon se milo to unhe kaho ke main unka hissa nahi aur unka koi hissa mujhse nahi. Aur sachai yeh hai ke woh mere aqeede ka zimmedar nahi hain. Abdullah ibn Umar ne Allah ki kasam khayi (aur kaha): Agar unme se koi shakhs (jo Ilahi Takdeer par yaqeen nahi rakhta) ke paas Suhud ki pahad ke barabar sona ho aur woh use Allah ki raah mein kharch kar de, to Allah use qubool nahi karega jab tak ke woh Ilahi Takdeer par imaan na laaye.
Usne yeh bhi kaha: Mere walid, Umar ibn al-Khattab, ne mujhe bataya ke ek din hum Rasool Allah (صلى الله عليه وسلم) ke saath baithay thay jab ek shakhs safed kapdon mein aur kaale baalon wale achanak hazur hue. Us par safar ki koi nishani nahi thi. Kisi mein se bhi usay pehchana nahi gaya. Akhirkaar woh Rasool Allah (صلى الله عليه وسلم) ke paas baith gaye. Woh unke saamne ghutno ko jhukaye aur apne haathon ko apni raanon par rakh kar bola: Muhammad, Islam ke baare mein mujhe batao.
Rasool Allah (صلى الله عليه وسلم) ne farmaya: Islam yeh hai ke tum gawahi do ke Allah ke siwa koi maabood nahi, aur Muhammad Allah ke Rasool hain, aur tum namaz ada karo, zakat do, Ramadan ka roza rakho, aur agar tumhari hatheliyaan umrah karne ke liye itna paishgi le sakti hain to hajj karo. Usne kaha: Tumne sach kaha. Umar ibn al-Khattab ne kaha: Hamein hairat hui ke woh sawal karta aur phir khud sachai ko tasdeeq karta. Usne kaha: Imaan ke baare mein batao.
Rasool Allah (صلى الله عليه وسلم) ne jawab diya: Imaan yeh hai ke tum Allah par, uske farishton par, uske kitabon par, uske rasoolon par, qayamat ke din par, aur achay aur bure ke baare mein Ilahi Takdeer par imaan rakho. Usne kaha: Tumne sach kaha. Phir usne kaha: Ihsan ke baare mein batao.
Rasool Allah (صلى الله عليه وسلم) ne kaha: Ihsan yeh hai ke tum Allah ko aise ibadat karo jaise tum use dekh rahe ho, ki haan, tum use dekh nahi rahe ho, lekin woh tumhe dekh raha hai. Phir usne kaha: Qayamat ke baare mein batao. Rasool Allah (صلى الله عليه وسلم) ne jawab diya: Jo sawal karta hai usko maloom nahi hota jaise jo puchta hai. Usne kaha: Mujhe uske asharaat ke baare mein kuch batao.
Rasool Allah (صلى الله