On this episode of Consider This, Melisa Idris speaks to the lead author of a report on statelessness in Peninsular Malaysia, Dr Melati Nungsari, Faculty Director of the ASEAN Research Centre, Associate Professor of Economics at the Asia School of Business, and Research Affiliate at the MIT-Sloan School of Management. Formerly stateless ​​Wong Yew Lee joins the conversation to help us better understand the intersectional lived experience of a stateless person.