“We shape our buildings, and afterwards our buildings shape us.” Architecture and design shape our ability to work, play & create community. How has policy responded to the challenges faced by local talent in the industry? On this episode of Consider This, Melisa Idris speak to Associate Professor (Industry) Ar Sarly Adre Sarkum, President of the Malaysian Institute of Architects (PAM) and Ar Almaz Rahim, Convenor of Singgah KL of 2023 for PAM.