Comedian Ms. Pat discusses the controversy surrounding clips of her friend Joe Rogan saying the N-word on his podcast. “People make mistakes," Ms. Pat said. Ms. Pat said she has spoken directly to Rogan about the controversy. She added,“You really never surprised when somebody white use the N-word."

Watch the full "Salon Talks" interview with Ms. Pat: https://www.salon.com/tv/video/nwafe5