During an interview with The Guardian, Xbox head Phil Spencer spoke about the future of narrative-drive games. He believes that titles like The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild and Horizon Zero Dawn “don’t have the same impact” as service-based games.

On this episode, I dissect what Phil Spencer is trying to say. Will future Xbox games be episodic and focus more on the multiplayer aspects? If this is successful for Microsoft, how will it impact the games industry? I try to answer these questions and more.