Mr. Adnan Oktar’s live interview with Jerusalem Post editors Laura Kelly and Seth Fratzman (A9TV: December 18th, 2014)
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- We are continuing our broadcast with our esteemed guests.
ADNAN OKTAR: Welcome. You’ve honored us.
- May I introduce our guests?
ADNAN OKTAR: Yes.
- Ms. Laura Kelly is an editor for the Jerusalem Post, Israel’s leading English-language daily. She works as a magazine editor. She is an American who settled in Israel in 2012 and has been as the editor of the Jerusalem Post magazine since 2014. Mr. Seth Frantzman received a doctorate from Jerusalem’s Hebrew University in 2010. He works as a commentator on current and political affairs in the Jerusalem Post. He is currently The Jerusalem Post's op-ed editor.
ADNAN OKTAR: You have delighted and honored us. We love you as the children of the Prophet Moses (pbuh). Let us talk, let us have a delightful conversation now.
SETH FRANTZMAN: It is a great honor to be here. And we’ve really appreciated your hospitality. It is a fascinating country. And it is really an awesome city to visit. And all the sights we saw and all the wonderful hospitality and interesting guest that we’ve met today, a politician. We’d love to learn from you. I mean some of what was explained to us about this mission that you’ve been working on. About the reconciliation and the vision that you have for Jewish-Muslim coexistence and relations.
ADNAN OKTAR: Yes. The Jews are the children of the Prophet Abraham (pbuh). It is obvious that the children of the Prophet Abraham are people we, and all the believers, would love because the Prophet Abraham was hospitable and loved people very much. And since you are their children, we love you very much. We want you to live in peace and happiness. We want there to be no spirit of hatred, rage or lovelessness.
SETH FRANTZMAN: But do you think that message is getting through, do you think that your message is sinking in (among Muslims) when we see so much hatred and intolerance across some parts of the Middle East, especially towards Jews and this issue of Anti-Semitism?
ADNAN OKTAR: Recently, in the End Times in other words ----- VOICE FADES ------ There is no need for panic or tension on the subject. God has already told us His commands on the matter.
Zechariah 9:10 – “I will take away the chariots from Ephraim and the war-horses from Jerusalem, and the battle bow will be broken… Your king, the King Messiah, will declare peace to the nations.”
This means there will be wars, there will be incidents and bloodshed and people will long for peace, but it is the King Messiah who will declare that peace: Moshiach, in other words. If there is a community of believers, they have to accept that.
For example;
Ezekiel, 39:9-10 “... Burn them [the weapons] up..” So there will be weapons everywhere. “… the small and large shields, the bows and arrows, the war clubs and spears...” That means there will be a huge armaments industry, and armor will be used. But these weapons will be destroyed. When? In the time of Moshiach. We have entered that time now. The time of glad tidings. “They will use them for fuel... declares the Sovereign Lord.”
For example; Micah 4:1-4 “In the last days...” In this time, the last days, the End Times. “Many nations will come ... They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks.” In other words, the arms industry will be diverted into industries that people need. There will be no more armaments industry. “Nation will not take up sword against nation,” but they are taking up the sword now. Nation will not take up the sword against nation in the time of Moshiach. That means the bloodshed will stop in the time of the Moshiach. “..nor will they train for war anymore.” Military training is going on at the moment. Huge military maneuvers are going on. What does it say? “… nor will they train for war anymore.” There will be no more training to kill. “Everyone will sit under their own vine and under their own fig tree, and no one will make them afraid…” Everyone is currently frightening everyone else; Muslims are also frightening one another. Christians are frightening one another, and so are Jews. “…no one will make them afraid, for the Lord Almighty has spoken.” Almighty God says, ‘I am God, and this is what will happen’.
Psalms, 37:37 “Consider the blameless,” look, this refers to Moshiach. “...observe the upright.” That also refers to Moshiach. It means wait for the Moshiach and follow him carefully. “…there is a future for the man of peace.” That means, the future- meaning our days- belongs to you, to us, to everyone who wants peace.
Look in Psalms, 133:1 “How good and pleasant it is when God’s people live together in unity!”
ADNAN OKTAR: Welcome. You’ve honored us.
- May I introduce our guests?
ADNAN OKTAR: Yes.
- Ms. Laura Kelly is an editor for the Jerusalem Post, Israel’s leading English-language daily. She works as a magazine editor. She is an American who settled in Israel in 2012 and has been as the editor of the Jerusalem Post magazine since 2014. Mr. Seth Frantzman received a doctorate from Jerusalem’s Hebrew University in 2010. He works as a commentator on current and political affairs in the Jerusalem Post. He is currently The Jerusalem Post's op-ed editor.
ADNAN OKTAR: You have delighted and honored us. We love you as the children of the Prophet Moses (pbuh). Let us talk, let us have a delightful conversation now.
SETH FRANTZMAN: It is a great honor to be here. And we’ve really appreciated your hospitality. It is a fascinating country. And it is really an awesome city to visit. And all the sights we saw and all the wonderful hospitality and interesting guest that we’ve met today, a politician. We’d love to learn from you. I mean some of what was explained to us about this mission that you’ve been working on. About the reconciliation and the vision that you have for Jewish-Muslim coexistence and relations.
ADNAN OKTAR: Yes. The Jews are the children of the Prophet Abraham (pbuh). It is obvious that the children of the Prophet Abraham are people we, and all the believers, would love because the Prophet Abraham was hospitable and loved people very much. And since you are their children, we love you very much. We want you to live in peace and happiness. We want there to be no spirit of hatred, rage or lovelessness.
SETH FRANTZMAN: But do you think that message is getting through, do you think that your message is sinking in (among Muslims) when we see so much hatred and intolerance across some parts of the Middle East, especially towards Jews and this issue of Anti-Semitism?
ADNAN OKTAR: Recently, in the End Times in other words ----- VOICE FADES ------ There is no need for panic or tension on the subject. God has already told us His commands on the matter.
Zechariah 9:10 – “I will take away the chariots from Ephraim and the war-horses from Jerusalem, and the battle bow will be broken… Your king, the King Messiah, will declare peace to the nations.”
This means there will be wars, there will be incidents and bloodshed and people will long for peace, but it is the King Messiah who will declare that peace: Moshiach, in other words. If there is a community of believers, they have to accept that.
For example;
Ezekiel, 39:9-10 “... Burn them [the weapons] up..” So there will be weapons everywhere. “… the small and large shields, the bows and arrows, the war clubs and spears...” That means there will be a huge armaments industry, and armor will be used. But these weapons will be destroyed. When? In the time of Moshiach. We have entered that time now. The time of glad tidings. “They will use them for fuel... declares the Sovereign Lord.”
For example; Micah 4:1-4 “In the last days...” In this time, the last days, the End Times. “Many nations will come ... They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks.” In other words, the arms industry will be diverted into industries that people need. There will be no more armaments industry. “Nation will not take up sword against nation,” but they are taking up the sword now. Nation will not take up the sword against nation in the time of Moshiach. That means the bloodshed will stop in the time of the Moshiach. “..nor will they train for war anymore.” Military training is going on at the moment. Huge military maneuvers are going on. What does it say? “… nor will they train for war anymore.” There will be no more training to kill. “Everyone will sit under their own vine and under their own fig tree, and no one will make them afraid…” Everyone is currently frightening everyone else; Muslims are also frightening one another. Christians are frightening one another, and so are Jews. “…no one will make them afraid, for the Lord Almighty has spoken.” Almighty God says, ‘I am God, and this is what will happen’.
Psalms, 37:37 “Consider the blameless,” look, this refers to Moshiach. “...observe the upright.” That also refers to Moshiach. It means wait for the Moshiach and follow him carefully. “…there is a future for the man of peace.” That means, the future- meaning our days- belongs to you, to us, to everyone who wants peace.
Look in Psalms, 133:1 “How good and pleasant it is when God’s people live together in unity!”
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